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#1 OFFLINE   Fafnir

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Отправлено 20 Август 2010 - 06:29

Good day to all, I want to show you some rumanian photos from my collection. These are simple portraits of pre-WWII and WWII period.
Dated in stages: none/1938/1939, photo paper is "Pala".

First,

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Отправлено 20 Август 2010 - 06:31

Second,
pays attention to itself cap badge with horn and "6" - what is it, maybe number of regiment? Your opinion, Mircea?

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Отправлено 20 Август 2010 - 06:33

And third,
on this one the cap badge is seen better.

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Отправлено 20 Август 2010 - 12:18

Nice photos! Thanks Fafnir! :42:

In my opinion all three portraits are from the same person.
Yes Freiwillige you are right, his military grade is Plutonier-major (Senior Warrant Officer)
His cap badge indicates that he is from Vânători de Munte (Mountain Hunters) 6th Battalion (3rd Mountain Division, 6th V.M. Group)

Operational period/Deployment area
.39-8.42_________Romania
8.42____________Crimea
9.42-7.43________Caucasus, Kuban
7.43-5.44________Crimea
5.44-13.10.44____Romania
13.10.44-________Hungary
26.12.44-8.4.45___Slovakia
9.4.45-11.7.45____Czechia

Regards!

Сообщение отредактировал ionionescu: 20 Август 2010 - 12:22


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Отправлено 20 Август 2010 - 13:42

Thanks Andrew and especially Mircea! Great, I have heard a lot about rumanian mountain troops. And you are right, these photos are from the same person.

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Отправлено 06 Сентябрь 2010 - 19:47

Yes, he is a Locotenent, and he is from Vânători de Munte (Mountain Hunters). Collar patches colour of Vânători de Munte is dark green this is maybe the reason that the collar patches are not visible in a black&white photo.
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Translation: Cu toată dragostea, surorei, cumnatului, și nepoțelelor noastre. Marioara și Ionel. 7 XI 926. T-viște. Familiei Ioan Lupu
With all love to my, sister, brother-in-law, our nephews. Marioara and Ionel. 7 XI 1926. Târgoviște (town). The family Ioan Lupu (Lupu in Romanian means Wolf)

One slight question regarding this portrait - what is the colour of that Locotenent's tunic collar? As far as collar patches are nearly invisible I suppose it's black?

Yes, as far as I know it was black.

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Отправлено 17 Ноябрь 2010 - 15:20

Sublocotenent of mountain troops (Vânători de Munte). Dark green collar patches practically invisible on the collar.

yes

Officer's awards.
Ordinul “Coroana României” în grad de Ofiţer is clearly visible. But what type of issue it is? The absence of crown signifies pre-1932 verison, am I right? At the same time there are crossed swords instituted on February 22, 1938. Your verdict, Mircea?

The 1881 to 1932 version had also swords, the military version has swards

And is there a slightest chance to ID his ribbons?

No.2 is Medalia "Răsplata Serviciului Militar" for NCO's (maybe 15 years) Изображение

Here's next big sized photo of a Locotenent-Colonel with his wife.
What can be added to the description?

Judging by the patch on his officers cap with an embroidered hunting horn, he must be from Vânători de Munte (Mountain Hunters)

Scan of the backside. Dedication states this officer is Colonel though his shoulder boards indicate lower rank.
Could you please give full translation of these writings?

Col. Mihail Zanfirescu 3273i33/8 VIII Sămb/C?(or 6) Buv.!. (??? I have no idea what the numbers and strange letters may be :rolleyes: )

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Отправлено 05 Декабрь 2010 - 21:45

Am I right assuming that here's a Capitan de vanatori in mica tinuta (M1877 unifrom)? He's awarded Ordinul Coroana Romaniei in grad de Cavaler 1st Model (1881).

yes, but by 1914 this uniform was worn exclusively as an parade uniform.

Could you please let me know what is that strange device on his epaulettes (I marked it with a red arrow)? It looks like "2" numeral, maybe it's a designation of his unit?

Usually, numbers on epaulettes mean number of the regiment, in this case 2nd Vânători Regiment

And could you provide a translation, please?

15 August 1914/ În semn de sinceră iubire/ Căpitan Georgescu/ D-lui Jean Demetriade/ Agronom
15 Augustus 1914/ As a token of sincere love/ Captain Georgescu/ To mister Jean Demetriade/ Agronomist

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Отправлено 08 Декабрь 2010 - 15:29

Maior de vanatori.
Awards:
1. Ordinul ”Coroana României” cu spade in grad de Ofiţer. II type (1932)?

yes type II, Cavaler was silver color and Ofițer was gold color.

2. Ordinul ”Steaua României” cu spade in grad de Cavaler.
3. Ordinul ”Steaua României” cu spade in grad de Cavaler.
4. Wound chevron on the upper left sleeve.

May be different classes, Cavaler was silver color and Ofițer was gold color.

And couple of questions regarding this portrait:
- Why two Steaua Romвniei orders are worn simultaneously? By the way are they of the same class and type?

They may be different classes, and also they may be received one in the Eastern campaign and the other in Western campaign.

- Is it M34 uniform he wears?

yes, M1934

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 17:31

Mircea, let me ask a couple of questions regarding this portrait:
1. Could Ordinul Steaua Romaniei be awarded twice for different merits like it was in the USSR?
2. As far as I understand Officer's cross had a rosette on the ribbon, so here we have two similar Knight's crosses! Am I right?

The rosette is called in Romanian ”panglică (rozetă) de virtute militară” and was awarded to all classes, as far as I know, if the recipient obtained the award as a result of direct contact with the enrmy.

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 17:50

Andrew, here is something I received from a friend of mine. It is in Russian language, I don't understand anything, but maybe it is of any help to you.

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 17:52

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 17:54

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 17:56

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 17:58

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 18:00

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 18:02

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That's it, I hope the information is accurate.

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Отправлено 12 Декабрь 2010 - 18:11

Mircea, I'm a bit confused...
Could Ordinul Steaua Romaniei be awarded twice for different merits or not?

I do not know, but I do not see why not.

As for that photo - do you mean to say he has two Ordinul Steaua Romaniei - Officer's and Knight's orders? Or two Knights?

In the previous answer ( Post #19 http://forum.blockha...p...t&p=273367) I said ”may be”, I meant that the difference is in the color and in black&white photos it is impossible to determine if it is silver or gold color.

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Отправлено 22 Декабрь 2010 - 18:17

Mircea, here's an interesting portrait of a Locotenent de Vanatori from the Regimentul 9 Vanatori "Regele Alexandru I al Sarbilor, Slovenilor si Croatilor" in a parade uniform. Am I right?

Yes.

What are his awards - medal and certain badge in form of Jagers' horn? What type of uniform he wears - M1877? Any ideas on the period of this portrait?

Badge - is an Vânători pin.
Meddal - Medalia comemorativă „Peleş” 1933 (see image attached)
Uniform - M1877
Period - I guess it was made when he received the medal, 1933.

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Отправлено 28 Декабрь 2010 - 16:31

The article you found is about the unveiling of the Infantryman Monument at 22 May 1931, dedicated Regimentului 9 Vânători de Gardă nr. 2 "Regele Alexandru al Iugoslaviei".
The regiment was famous that it was victorious in all 54 battlefields between 1916 -1919.




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